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You personify a strong, fast talking, intelligent woman, which is a gift by way of your heritage. I was a woman ruled by fear. My mom, who doesnt attend HBC, says that the church is going to die because James was the bread and butter. 2023 RELEVANT Media Group, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The decision comes after an explosive scandalous period at Harvest, including a botched excommunication,an ill-fated attempt at a defamation lawsuit, a scathing investigative report from World Magazine and then this most recent, shocking revelation. Thanks for finally being honest. Sports Betting Hits a New High: A Crisis in the Making? I have wondered if Harvest Bible Chapel (the organization) is worth the cost its taken to try and save it? How are you so sure she didnt pray about this? But wait who is that lurking around the edges, his deeds the center of everyones interest in our church right now, salivating and gleeful that divisiveness and sin is healthy within the body of Christ? Harvest Bible Chapel We're here to glorify God through the fulfillment of the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20). Put faith in Gods justice and judgement upon all, now that sin has been exposed. Thanks for speaking up! Hidden things have come to light. #justsaying #carryon, Youd have to read the blog. Anil. Seriously? When I asked questions at the Harvest I attended I was told to be careful what I read on the internet. A worship song says He gives and takes away, He gives and takes away, and still my heart will say Blessed be the name of the LORD!. Looking back over my life I see how all things have led to today. No, I dont as well as many others. I was wrong. I am a 60 year old grandfather who wants to get a tatoo around my ankle of all six of my grandchildrens names. Torn between right and wrong. The beloved drink is both an attraction and a generational divide. Ive been blessed by your teaching and Im wondering if I wouldnt have heard your teaching as much had you stayed longer at Harvest. Yes, there are a lot of hurting people at Harvest. I am sorry for the pain. Were they unaware of what was happening behind the scenes? I agree with Nellie. It is a biblical teaching that unrepentant public sin in a public representative of God ((ie, pastors and elders) must be publicly rebuked for the sake of the church as a whole. We repent, forgive and are reconciled; we do not get even, hold grudges, refuse to forgive, or destroy innocent bystanders caught in the wake of it all. * 36But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. God loves truth. Im far removed from this situation, but saddened by it nonetheless. Hoping you come back and teach a book of the Bible. *For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. The only hope is to totally exposed and excise it so that all will not be consumed. The recognizing date of the exempt status is April, 1972. James said it many times himself, chose to sin, Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. On February 12th, someone who sounded an awful lot like James MacDonald called into Mancow Mullers Chicago-area radio show to cuss out all of his perceived enemies. Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories, Abujamra, a Bible teacher and Moody Radio host, wrote on her blog. So great to see your support with your wise comment. (It wouldve done no good to tell them how they erred when previous months didnt get it done.) I am thankful that timing of other circumstances in my life led me to a new city to grow and find a faithful, healthy, growing, biblical church community. Thanks again, Lina, for being courageous in the midst of these difficult days. Though MacDonald initially opted to step away from all preaching and leadership roles at the churchs Chicago-area locations, in his January 16 sabbatical announcement he suggested he might still preach at a Harvest congregation in Naples, Florida, which led to another saga. Thank you for this. According to Roys extensive research and interviews, changes didnt occur at Harvest; instead, questionable treatment and practices continued. 102 reviews of Faith Church "I have been to a few churches in my day. Sign up for our newsletter: Speaking the truth and not cowering in the corner. You have to leave before you can see clearly. James could have easily prayed, [] There are a couple of other reads that came to my attention this evening related to Harvest Bible Chapel that I wanted to make people aware. What should we be planning for, praying for, and what did Jesus teach about? I regret staying at Harvest after that meeting with the elders. Dont stop trusting or loving. It is important to bring light to this matter, help yourself and others heal and put a new song of praise and trust in Our God. It was engaging at times. I do believe you. One thing that has helped is recognizing seasons. He spoke highly of you, and since then, I have occasionally prayed for you regarding your time and experience at HBC. I left Harvest CL 3 yrs ago after being forced out of a ministry and other thingspart of the membership indoctrinationyou are not allowed to say anything disparaging against church leadership or the church. You have every right to speak up; and I respect you for doing so. We are the Church! That the church went on and did not implode or hemorrhage members right then speaks to the prevalence of harmful ideas about authority and church leadership in evangelical circles. The bloggers began posting again, however, in 2017, around the same time that Harvest Bible Fellowship was dissolved in 2017, due in part to concerns by some some member churches about how Harvest was managing the fellowships finances. He was a very good speaker and teacher of the Bible but was forced to resign from our church a few years back. All this comes on the heels of another scandal. Harvest Bible Chapel of Naples, whose leadership recently turned over after scandal rocked its Chicago parent megachurch, is the most . One person (not from Harvest) asked if I needed to call the church to cancel my membership. (Galatians 2:11-21) That timeline accelerated, when on Tuesday morning highly inappropriate recorded comments made by Pastor MacDonald were given to media and reported, they wrote. As one person whom MacDonald led to the Lord remarked to me, Its like finding out your wife is a serial killer. The disillusionment, betrayal, and loss can be excruciating. There would be major issues involving James, followed by a carefully worded elder update or a carefully scripted announcement in church. In effect, the senior pastor isthe church. Lastly, we need to comfort hurting today, she wrote. The timing of this article makes you less credible. Do You Really Have to Go to Church Every Sunday? This was encouraging to read and I hope others take it to heart. Thank you for sharing and speaking truth Lina. I have always wondered why? Truth is truth. I pray shes wrong. Finally, we have landed at a church with a passion for others, our hearts have healed and by going there I was introduced to your bible study Resolved. It completed my healing. Sign up to get our top five trending stories delivered every weekday! Your willingness to sit down over a cup of coffee in your home with women of God and get real about our hurts, our fears, our dreams, or whatever is going on in our lives. You are being bold and telling the truth and just wanted to encourage you.I always loved your passion for Gods Word and pray Gods blessing as you stand strong Him! This pastor couldnt have been more wrong. Lina, thank you for your post, and thank you for your honesty and transparency. Do you remember how Jesus acted towards the money changers and false shepherds? I should have walked out but, I too, was afraid. How about some GRACE !!! Just because its a church building with leaders doesnt mean that Christ is leading it. My father went through prostate cancer. Christ alone is to be worshipped. On January 8th, after learning that anything obtained through subpoenas related to the lawsuit could be made public, however, Harvest Bible Chapel dropped the lawsuit. Prayer works as we understand to be HIS humble servants. Also Thank you Lina for having the courage to say something now. Do you think God approves of pastors who deliberately scam their congregation for years, use his name for money and abuse people for the Almighty Dollar? What blessings are flowing at Harvest for those who stand firm! This decision was made with heavy hearts and much time spent in earnest prayer, followed by input from various trusted outside advisors.. Often it was the leadership that lost track and influenced the group. Dont talk to them, or theyll drag you down too. You are brave and you did the right thing! Over the summer, they agreed to try to make a joint statement and start the process of relational reconciliation, the Harvest elders said, but the efforts didnt pan out. The message we received was they were sorry we felt that way and they were sure it was not his intention. In good conscience we walked away too knowing it was the right thing before God.So now I get your story, you were a favorite of Kathy and James so I am sure to take a stand against the injustice at Harvest was not at all an easy decision.So many other godly people got pushed out for speaking up about the entitlement and harshness of James and other Pastors and Elders.So very sad somewhere along the way they just forgot they are supposed to be shepherds and servant and not the guards defending the many sin issues at Harvest. My coworker who was Catholic and going through a painful divorce, was led to Christ by me. I hope that the cleansing and purification will come to Davenport as well. New to Harvest and my faith in Christ, I didnt know what was going on and still kinda of unclear of all the details. Love you! Have you sought the Lord in prayer and fasting?Exposing sin is not hurtful then you would be against every prophet in the Bible. I do not think the solution is replacing the pastor and associates with a new administration. You are courageous! Long story short he kicked my husband and I out of the church. Church is a small community. She approached this with sensitivity, wisdom and grace. There are times in our lives and circumstances that its just not real clear as to how to address something, with as little harm to what is good, as possible. Lina, My wife and I also left our church several years ago. In early 2018, reporter Julie Roys, who writes for the conservative evangelical WORLD Magazine, began conducting background research for an article, which was published eight months later under the headline Hard Times at Harvest. ! Congratulations on your freedom, Lina! Harvest, an off-shoot of an eponymous megachurch in Illinois, was sued for. Fear is why leaders did not speak up until now. I regret my own weaknesses, my love for the approval of others. Secrest, who founded the church in 2016 and affiliated with Harvest last September, said he didnt know at the time about the ongoing concerns raised about MacDonalds leadership and the churchs financial status, which led to Harvests lawsuit last year. I thank you for your willingness to risk being misunderstood while offering your experience to help reduce the shame of others, who need a hand to hold, as they work through their own healing. Five Uncomfortable Church Documentaries Still Worth Watching, Asbury Announces New Service ScheduleCampus Will Be Closed to the Public After Today, Eight Witnesses Testified Against Hillsong Founder Brian Houston in Court Case. Because TRANSPARENCY is neededand now ahe may be starting to feel safe. I really doubt theyre sending texts and emails asking for money. Fear is never a godly way of governing. It helps to be able to talk about it instead of feeling like you have to hide it, or just deal with it. No one wins here-except our enemy. :) I met my husband about 5 yrs ago and he had been attending faith community church for a bit. But dont shame others who speak up. see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/. *Strong Bad: Just for the record, in all kindness Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. I was brushed off. Scripture does not say what the mark was, but it was a mark that man knew as a sign to not to kill Cain, as it would end his life, and end the judgement that God had given Cain to live out his life with. you felt through James harvest mentality, you would be rebellious against authority if you stood up The fruit of people at Harvest coming to Christ belongs to the Holy Spirit, not to JM. I praise your decision to own your ministry outside of James. The question is, how many pastors/leaders are actually GIVING AWAY the ministry and equipping others for it? Too many of these large churches have lost track of what their true purpose is. All why surrounding himself w/yes men. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. In one fellowship people were actually warned to have nothing to do with us, and yet all we had done, in each instance was to ask questions. James is (was) a powerful force which could and did destroy people with his power and influence. Those that have gone through it ask themselves, should I speak up?. Why kick him and the church while their down Lina? Its very important that people share their stories. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. Woah there Nellie! Another blind believer. Or were you saying they were bullied too. 2.) Christ followers are saying enough. She has admitted that she didnt speak up enough at the time. And a few days later James MacDonalds sons, Luke and Landon MacDonald, also announced they are resigning. Abusers groom their community and a spiritually abusive church grooms its members to not rock the boat, to gaslight themselves, and to leave quietly if they should ever refuse to submit to abuse. Harvest and MacDonald had a contentious separation last year, when he lost the position he held for 30 years over inappropriate comments and harmful conduct stemming from his legal battle with people investigating the church. The Lord has used you mightily before, during and after your exit from the toxic leadership at Harvest. Thank you for opening up your home so that hurting people could come together and share. The World article on the topic says that after Secrest was fired, "he was stunned, because his contract stipulated that he could be fired only for . Another church on The Lord's Way is on its way out. You can read that story right here. And, at the same time, I know you to be a humble woman, easily impacted by negative, feedback. Good word, my sister. I also dont know why it took me five years to leave, but now Ive been at a true Bible preaching, Jesus exulting church, not too far from the RM campus. Praying for you for healing and for growth and strength during all of this. He also makes vulgar comments about Wheaton College executive director of the Billy Graham Center Ed Stetzer and repeatedly degrades Julie Roys, the reporter who wrote the World Magazine story. Please support my writing! I have never attended Harvest. In addition, what was shared now, may have been heard better now, then it would have been heard before Lina left Harvest. Harvest Bible Chapel Naples and its landlord have reached a settlement, ending a court battle to evict the church. Harvest dropped the lawsuit; MacDonald took a leave of absence; Roys revealed that MacDonald had lied; and then, finally, MacDonald went on a public vulgar, slander-laced tirade against Roys and Christianity Today. I remember when I saw the tattoo that James got and I remembered the line from The Davinci Code about the Chevron symbol. The current leadership at Harvest Bible Chapel including Luke and Landon and Rick and Mo and Jeff and the CFO are infected by the cancer of fear and control. No church is, because they are all filled with sinners like us. Besides, pastors charismatic enough to gain large followings frequently have the ability to effectively deflect criticism and keep their elder board firmly on their side. You are Loved I think I am gonna throw up. I was too afraid to ask her why. I applaud you for your courage to leave the church and let the fall out damage by James to you as a person and your career ministry, to be in Gods hands. I agree here. Ross, Pastor James MacDonald, of Harvest Bible Chapel, was given the boot last week by church elders after "highly inappropriate . Thank you Lina! The culture of fear is real, soo much so I dont feel comfortable giving my name as some will know me. Its true, Anonymous, we have no right to predict the eternal destiny of even the worst of sinners, for God longs to show mercy and grant repentance to all. Dont damage the church by being publicly critical. We sincerely thank you for your prayers, your support, and your patience as we work together to restore a trust in leadership, a humility to surrender to biblical authority, and a firm resolve to move forward as a church family., Subscribe to CT But when it happens for reasons like this we should be shouting it but unfortunately we dont always perceive the abuse for what it was/is until we are out of the situation. Blessings to you! He has harmed thousands of people. Its been over a year and a lot has changed at Harvest and a lot sill needs to change. Two top Harvest Bible Chapel pastors today announced they're resigning, following a "season" of difficulty sparked by the termination and scandal involving disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. In any case, we had a final meeting with the pastor and his assistant pastor (who was his son-in-law) to tell them that I was leaving their church. Did you see the link to my web page. During his sabbatical, MacDonald had planned to preach at the. You said, out of fear, I complied. Thanks for writing it. [] While only a handful showed up, the range of their pain was wide. Why now does not matter. I thought something was off but had only my own suspicions to go on as we were told not to criticize. Thank goodness God is still God! Both can be messy, but in the latter case, responsibility for that mess must be laid squarely at the feet of the abusive Elders who are sinning, not at the feet of Christs little ones, the oppressed members of Christs flock, who are being caused to stumble, nor at the feet of those attempting to triage the wounded and sound a warning to others who are in danger of being is it the pastors doing? What matters is truth be told. http://www.issendai.com/psychology/sick-systems.html. I also managed to write an apology to James for the pain I had caused him. That is at the root of a serious problem that the Church hardly touches. These patterns were present and recognized as early as 2012, and nothing was done about them. I will pray for healing in the hearts and lives of those affected by this tragedy. A final incident in Roys article involves MacDonald publicly berating HCA students, an incident witnessed by Harvest videographer Luke Helmer. Linas post is still available on other mediums, I imagine if she wanted to link it she would have. and manifest character, which have been revealed to speak not of the Holy Spirit of love, but rather have the love of money and power and the very reek of Hell about them! , The elders of Harvest stand behind [Pastor MacDonalds] character and integrity without reservation. Even before the Garden of Eden seduction, he foresaw the need for The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Your leaving (however late you feel it was) was His provision for others, much like Joseph sent ahead to Egypt years ahead of his brothers and father. Amen Sister! Seeing this in your personality it is understandable to me that at first you revered James correction and fell into compliance. Basically hes a figurehead who can be dismissed on the whim of any elder or his wife. Therefore Lina did what God moved her to do in His Boldness and Courage, being fear had silenced her. Everyone sat still as if he mentioned chocolate milk. From your first speaking engagement at Harvest, I have watched your ministry(ies) and have see you be a strong fast speaking, outgoing woman, by ethnic background, yet a humble servant of Christ who feels deeply the impact of wrongfulness. I hate to be James because God judges leadership harsher than the regular sinner. If they built it, it is theirs to destroy. Be blessed dear Sister. I think the congregation who asks these questions should know that I pray for them. Hi Hurting in Davenport, But the truth needs to be out there. I will remember to pray for you and the fallout of this situation each time I see somethyfrom you come across my in box. I wondered where God was in the narrative. Harvest womans Tuesday bible study group has not studied a book of the Bible in a couple of years. Lina, Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. God help those who cant see their need to be set free or judge those whove found it in Christ Jesus. And in 1 Corinthians 5, we are told to judge those within the Church). I hope they succeed in bringing people back to the church! Thanks for sharing Lina. Gods Timing Is ALWAYS Perfect! MacDonald is not being kicked while hes down. Did you realize the pastors publicly said sorry last weekend? Thanks for writing this, Lina. Sign up for our newsletter: I am so proud of Lina and she is speaking out the words that I would never say because I live in fear of that kind of authority. That is, so many think that the church is the pastors ministry and they dont adequately facilitate the ministry of believers. I didnt want to risk any negative impacts on my own growing ministry. - October 16, 2020 The protracted dispute between Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) recently concluded through arbitration. I lost the bulk of my community virtually overnight. These being the facts of my simple, uncomplicated, and naive experience as an attendee and member of Harvest, the last several weeks of revelations, discoveries, denial, anger, grief, victims, conjecture, embarrassment, hurt, stories, gossip, cover-ups, accusations, defensiveness, lawsuits, maliciousness, divisiveness, blame, threats, and even some name-calling as of late I have begun to realize that those of us who are just the congregation, the blessed and appreciative recipients of the God-given talents of all those involved in running and ministering Harvest, we are now in the painful position reminiscent of children involved in the divorce of parents, both(ALL!) Whats also sad is that old witness accounts go to show how truly far reaching and how long this behavior has been going on. I have had similar experiences at The Chapel . Wake up this tragedy has been in the works a long time. God bless you. Gods heart, over and over again, is for those who are oppressed. Romans 16: 17-20. Now you can stop going to church altogether and free your mind from religious delusion. The word of God and the flock were only mentioned at the end of the long list. MacDonald was manifestly not okay with the criticism. Id like to think its the fear of man spoken about in the Bible but I think it often goes beyond that. Unhappy to see you did not make the approved list. And come together in prayer, fasting and humility before Jesus that He enables us to be the people He died for. There are people there I thought were my friend and as soon as my life takes a left turn and happens out of order (first came baby then came marriage and then another baby) I get ousted out and judged and hurt. You too felt you had to leave Harvest and what was your point of conviction on having to leave the Church ,that we all sacrificed so much for! These things happen in small churches too. Why if it wasnt really a real sinful mess would so many in leadership just exit and give up what was a big part of our lives and our kids lives? Thank you Lina, Thank you for sharing! Thank you for your courage and for responding. He better thank God for Grace and cause he is going to need it. As Gods word says it would. Oh my how that resonated with me and the experiences my beloved and I have had with churches in the UK. I have always wondered why you left Lina but didnt know you personally to ask. I never worked at Harvest under Pastor James, I never wrote a book, I never had any altercation with Pastor James, and never had a complaint about him. I kept seeing little hints of questionable goings-on at Harvest Bible Church, a large megachurch in suburban Chicago, but didnt really pay attention until last week, when the issue blew up in the most bizarre way. Do you realize the elders are already choosing to step down? The womans bible study lead by two women who referenced Pastor James constantly are still in charge. This is a very vulnerable time for a lot of people and I am sure God weeps for every single wounded soul.. The public scrutiny continued with pushback against MacDonalds decision to preach at a Harvest affiliate in Florida during his sabbatical. Same as your departure, not a single person reached out to see how I was doing once I left my job. Different situations require different things. Oh Kristy, Thank you so much for expressing exactly what I am feelingsuch sorrow, such heartbreaking sorrow. For our newsletter: Speaking the truth needs to be James because God judges leadership harsher than the regular.! How are you so much for expressing exactly what I am gon na throw up it to heart was to. Have to hide it, it is understandable harvest bible church scandal me, its like finding out your wife a. 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